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Best twintip for waves

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Created by Rufus123 A week ago, 16 May 2020
jms
NSW, 130 posts
Thursday , 21 May 2020 2:41PM
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I've got a cabrinha tronic too. Haven't tried a ton of different boards, but I'm happy with it. Solves the problem I had of catching my tip with the old general purpose board I used to have.

Now my only problem is that it's too small and slow on the low wind days and too big on the high wind days! Time for some new boards :)

cauncy
WA, 7855 posts
Thursday , 21 May 2020 2:21PM
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ste said..
Another thread with everyone feeling the love!!
cant we all just play nice?


No
What about them f######g wind wingers too

Waveswindy
NSW, 106 posts
Thursday , 21 May 2020 10:43PM
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Twinnies struggle to edge and stay in the wave.... And often ride different lines to those on surfboards which causes confusion and waves missed.

Get a surfboard/directional... Go strapped if you must.... But a little pain in the beginning is worth the reward after

Plummet
4714 posts
Sunday , 24 May 2020 9:51AM
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Waveswindy said..
Twinnies struggle to edge and stay in the wave.... And often ride different lines to those on surfboards which causes confusion and waves missed.

Get a surfboard/directional... Go strapped if you must.... But a little pain in the beginning is worth the reward after


That was my experience on a standard wave twinnie.

Really hard to control a bottom turn with a big heavy wave. Really having to lean back and stomp the back foot to not nose dive on the steep faces, also getting out of control fast on the cross off days with not enough fin grip to crank into some manic edging.

So I bought a sb. Rode it for maybe 6 month. I'll give it kudos on the wave face it was awesome. No more worries about nose diving and bottom turns. Sublime carving on the face its self. It was fun in that respect. But i hated it like the wrath of 1000 circus monkeys for everything else. The incessant need to jybe, having to avoid the shallows or rocky areas, jumping wasn't as good and I was constantly worried about snapping it on a hard landing.

Ultimately in reduced my total enjoyment as it didn't do some of the stuff I really love very well at all or it couldn't do them at all. For me Riding the wave is half the fun. Smashing shallows, jumping and weaving around rocks, and boosting to the moon is the other half. I wanted a board to do both reasonably. SB's were not the craft for me.

So I build a mutant, added a bit of nose rocker, and experimented with fin configurations for a while and discovered that quad 55mm fins on the back gave me good grip. I could hold pretty much any bottom turn on the quad, The increased nose rocker fixed the nose-diving issues of the tt. Then I fluffed around for a while finding the perfect location for fins/footpad set up. Rearfoot too forward like a TT gives you a bigger turning radius, Moving the rear foot back tightens the turning radius and makes the board feel more surfboards. But too much rearward stance and it rode backward like a dog. I snuck the fins up the board a bit and found that magic spot that gave me a sweet carve on the wave but didn't feel ****house going backward.

Finally a took the toeside fin on the front of the board. I found that I didn't need it for boosting on the way out and it was less catchy riding down the line.

I finally found the set up that i really enjoyed. I could boost stupid and ride waves sweetly. That is the board for me....... suits my style perfectly.

To this day I still get sb riders baffled that I can ride crazy-ass surf conditions that are even challenging for a sb. They look at my board and think its a TT. Why not, it looks like one. They ask "how can you ride those waves on that twin tip?" "When are you getting a sb?"
Then I have to explain its a mutant designed for wave riding and general stupid conditions.

The below picture is just some wave throth...... Its the surf break I designed my mutant around.




LeighMajor
NSW, 355 posts
Sunday , 24 May 2020 7:55PM
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Hey Plummett
I get it.
same ole story people watch and wonder.
They check your board and say what the fark?
Sweet break you made it for.
Love to taste that set up.
Half your luck dude.
Love your work.

warwickl
NSW, 1408 posts
Sunday , 24 May 2020 8:23PM
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LeighMajor said..
Hey Plummett
I get it.
same ole story people watch and wonder.
They check your board and say what the fark?
Sweet break you made it for.
Love to taste that set up.
Half your luck dude.
Love your work.


Agree, I am now a part mutant convert (LF moon Patrol) but for now 90% Windwing in 15 kn plus and kite foiling in sub 15kn.
No wind SUP foil but very low priority and progress.

cat
WA, 47 posts
Monday , 25 May 2020 10:48AM
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I've had a nomad wave twintip for 1 season now. Got the most basic carbon wave setup approx $1200 AUD + delivery of around $200. Yes exy but not $3000 and Simon from Nomad rates the layup and was totally upfront about the more expensive boards. He knows his sh#t and designed a great board for me. The surfboard vs twintip - and I mean symmetrical not mutant - discussion is a moot point, like comparing apples and oranges. Obviously a surfboard will perform better in surf of any size, bigger fins, more volume, less power needed etc etc but if your a bit of a surfing muppet, love the versatility of a twinny or just can't bear the constant riding on the same back leg for ever, ie can't gybe well, then this board is the bomb. Super light so yes does skid a bit when turned hard and the fins aren't in the same league size wise as most surfboard fins but that's partly what makes the board such fun in anything but big surf. Initially was a tad concerned about the board strength as so light but it's been hammered many times and not a scratch. As others have said you get what you pay for. You want a Porsche then stump up.

LeighMajor
NSW, 355 posts
Monday , 25 May 2020 10:28PM
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Hey Cat
I totally agree on spending a bit extra to get such an excellent ride.
I Have had my Team wave 150 x43 for 3yrs second dearest out of the four Carbon options available.
Hands down the best wave TTIp out there.
Simon from Nomad suggests 8cm longer than your usual square TTip.Because of the pulled in planshape at the ends.11mm concave with tip flex.
Fins Full Carbon or composite more forward with cant.
Love my favourite directional boards but usually finish a session on the Nomad Twin wave.
Farken love em.

Plummet
4714 posts
Tuesday , 26 May 2020 1:51AM
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I also agree that you need to upsize from your standard TT dimensions.
Mine is 145x45.

Waveswindy
NSW, 106 posts
Tuesday , 26 May 2020 8:39AM
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At 145cm... Just under 5ft. Most wave boards like the FireWire Vader and many other start. Actually they start at 4'10. People ride them strapped or unstrapped. I had 5'1 for couple of years and loved it.


If you need to take a twintip to surfboard size it... Not worth just having two boards? Twinny and surfboard. You can jump with strapped board ... Just not shallow if it's a decent surfboard with fins.

PanaQc
6 posts
Tuesday , 26 May 2020 9:22AM
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Plummet said..
I also agree that you need to upsize from your standard TT dimensions.
Mine is 145x45.


I dont quite agree. I weigh 88 kg (say 200 pounds) and i have a choice of 3 Nomad board sizes (built over the years for different programs). My goto board for 10-12 m riding is 143x42.5 and I find it a bit big. Often go down to 140x40 if loaded and obviously for smaller sails. I have a 153x43 and I find it huge, use it for 14m sailing almost xclusvely now thar i no longer have a 17m. For wave riding (usually 10m and smaller, always on the 140x40 and could be smaller.

At my weight if I had a new medium board built it would be 142x41 or 41.5



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