Hi 4byran4
As long as the rope and the red safety line running through the bar is in good condition and there is not to much wear. Also check the lines are in good condition and that the red release mechenism above the loop functions under load and there is no corrosion in the system.
The bar is just old there were no know issues with that bar
Robbo2099
You guys did a great job and I really appreciate it
You are though confusing your east and west
East of the Habour bridge is Sydney Habour and there was people kiting in that area and they are still I think.
West of the Habour Bridge is the the Parramatta River and the Lane Cove River.
All the literature clearly states Sydney Habour and even though you may consider all the waterways west of Sydney heads to be Sydney Habour I'm sure that the Roads and Maritime Services don't.
Again kiting anywhere on Port Jackson is a really bad idea
I watched the news report a few days ago. There was a quick snippet of the kite and bar. If my memory serves me correctly it was a North Rebel, 2010.
I couldn't imagine an experienced rider using this gear given the age. Condolences.
Underoath --
As a newbie can you tell me what is wrong with this bar? It looks almost identical to the one I have! Am I taking some kind of risk I shouldn't?
thanks!
Bryan.
Me too used this bar a large amount no issues from me,
Very sad story and can only assume it was lack of experience that led him to go out in very dangerous conditions in a location which is equally dangerous. The boat ramp shown in this article careflight.org/news/kite-surfer-critical-condition-colliding-boat-ramp/
Not sure how you could even consider kiting this one! I grew up in this area so know the bay well and it is full of moored boats (yachts mostly), mangroves and high seawalls so not a great spot in the best conditions and no room for error in a storm.
I watched the news report a few days ago. There was a quick snippet of the kite and bar. If my memory serves me correctly it was a North Rebel, 2010.
I couldn't imagine an experienced rider using this gear given the age. Condolences.
Underoath --
As a newbie can you tell me what is wrong with this bar? It looks almost identical to the one I have! Am I taking some kind of risk I shouldn't?
thanks!
Bryan.
Spend $30 to upgrade that long leash to a nice short one that attaches to the front of your harness.
For safety.
I watched the news report a few days ago. There was a quick snippet of the kite and bar. If my memory serves me correctly it was a North Rebel, 2010.
I couldn't imagine an experienced rider using this gear given the age. Condolences.
Underoath --
As a newbie can you tell me what is wrong with this bar? It looks almost identical to the one I have! Am I taking some kind of risk I shouldn't?
thanks!
Bryan.
Hi Bryan.
Generally speaking a kite that has seen 5 seasons is cactus.
Over time kites degenerate and risk of failure increases. The UV coating degrades & will cause the fabric to degrade, make the canopy weak and prone to blowouts. There is also the thought that at a microscopic level, salt crystals can slowly damage lines.
A 2010 kite (made in 2009) has had 10 seasons if it has been used regularly. 10 years of crashes and 10 years of self launching.
Hi tommyboy22
I hope your mate is recovering well and has not sustained any life changing injuries.
Could you please keep us keep us aware of his condition
I would be very interested to hear his story as I think many could benefit from hearing it
I am really struggling to understand why any one would try and fly a kite in that area and those winds
Technically Drummoyne is not on Sydney Habour and not covered as part KA NSW no go zone.
It is though part of Port Jackson which covers all tidal waters of North Habour, Middle Habour, The Lane Cove, Sydney Habour and the Parramatta River.
Personally I would never kite any where on Port Jackson. Not just because it is part of a No Go Zone but having sailed most of that area in skiffs and keel boats I know how turbulent the wnd is in there.
I think that KA NSW should deem the whole of Port Jackson a No Kiting Zone.
Ian, you are picking at straws again. Very few people today including Google Maps call Sydney Harbour by its other name of Port Jackson.
I was involved with AKSA as it was known back then when the bans were implemented, and I attended meetings with the NSW Maritime as it was known then. NSW Maritime (Now RMS NSW) made it very clear that kiting was banned on ALL of Sydney Harbour and they definitely intended that to mean the various bays and waterways to the west of the harbour bridge.
Do a google search and see if anything other than Port Jackson Bay comes up on the first page.
For sure though the no go map should extend to cover all of the waterways inside of the Sydney Harbour heads, including the Lane Cove River and the Parramatta River.
Here is a definition of Port Jackson from a google search of the term.
I watched the news report a few days ago. There was a quick snippet of the kite and bar. If my memory serves me correctly it was a North Rebel, 2010.
I couldn't imagine an experienced rider using this gear given the age. Condolences.
Underoath --
As a newbie can you tell me what is wrong with this bar? It looks almost identical to the one I have! Am I taking some kind of risk I shouldn't?
thanks!
Bryan.
Hi Bryan.
Generally speaking a kite that has seen 5 seasons is cactus.
Over time kites degenerate and risk of failure increases. The UV coating degrades & will cause the fabric to degrade, make the canopy weak and prone to blowouts. There is also the thought that at a microscopic level, salt crystals can slowly damage lines.
A 2010 kite (made in 2009) has had 10 seasons if it has been used regularly. 10 years of crashes and 10 years of self launching.
I am still flying your 2006 Slingshot Fuel. Best kite I've ever had! ;)
Someone needs to refine/edit Wikipedia...
en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Kiteboarding
"Wind direction and speed[edit]
Cross-shore and cross-onshore winds are the best for unassisted kiteboarding. Direct onshore winds carry the risk of being thrown onto land or stuck in shallows. Direct offshore winds pose the danger of being blown away from the shore in the event of equipment failure or loss of control. However offshore winds can be quite suitable in confined waters, like in a lake or estuary, or when a safety boat is assisting."
Tell that to the RMS
Ian, you are picking at straws again. Very few people today including Google Maps call Sydney Harbour by its other name of Port Jackson.
I was involved with AKSA as it was known back then when the bans were implemented, and I attended meetings with the NSW Maritime as it was known then. NSW Maritime (Now RMS NSW) made it very clear that kiting was banned on ALL of Sydney Harbour and they definitely intended that to mean the various bays and waterways to the west of the harbour bridge.
Do a google search and see if anything other than Port Jackson Bay comes up on the first page.
For sure though the no go map should extend to cover all of the waterways inside of the Sydney Harbour heads, including the Lane Cove River and the Parramatta River.
Here is a definition of Port Jackson from a google search of the term.
Yes McTool I am a details orintated person and your mixing your metaphors
I am "Nit Picking" and you are "Grasping a Straws" to try and say the poor young man was doing something illegal
Go have a look at the google map you posted earlier. It has the word Parramatta River in blue all round Drummoyne Not Port Jackson or Sydney Habour
Have you ever skippered a boat on Port Jackson
I am still flying your 2006 Slingshot Fuel. Best kite I've ever had! ;)
There is a reason I sold it to you.
Ian, you are picking at straws again. Very few people today including Google Maps call Sydney Harbour by its other name of Port Jackson.
I was involved with AKSA as it was known back then when the bans were implemented, and I attended meetings with the NSW Maritime as it was known then. NSW Maritime (Now RMS NSW) made it very clear that kiting was banned on ALL of Sydney Harbour and they definitely intended that to mean the various bays and waterways to the west of the harbour bridge.
Do a google search and see if anything other than Port Jackson Bay comes up on the first page.
For sure though the no go map should extend to cover all of the waterways inside of the Sydney Harbour heads, including the Lane Cove River and the Parramatta River.
Here is a definition of Port Jackson from a google search of the term.
Yes McTool I am a details orintated person and your mixing your metaphors
I am "Nit Picking" and you are "Grasping a Straws" to try and say the poor young man was doing something illegal
Go have a look at the google map you posted earlier. It has the word Parramatta River in blue all round Drummoyne Not Port Jackson or Sydney Habour
Have you ever skippered a boat on Port Jackson
RMS - Maritime have confirmed that there is a Regulation that specifically bans kiting on the Harbour east and west of the Bridge including the Parammatta River - common sense would tell most people kiting west of the Bridge is not a good idea anyway.
Ian, you are picking at straws again. Very few people today including Google Maps call Sydney Harbour by its other name of Port Jackson.
I was involved with AKSA as it was known back then when the bans were implemented, and I attended meetings with the NSW Maritime as it was known then. NSW Maritime (Now RMS NSW) made it very clear that kiting was banned on ALL of Sydney Harbour and they definitely intended that to mean the various bays and waterways to the west of the harbour bridge.
Do a google search and see if anything other than Port Jackson Bay comes up on the first page.
For sure though the no go map should extend to cover all of the waterways inside of the Sydney Harbour heads, including the Lane Cove River and the Parramatta River.
Here is a definition of Port Jackson from a google search of the term.
Yes McTool I am a details orintated person and your mixing your metaphors
I am "Nit Picking" and you are "Grasping a Straws" to try and say the poor young man was doing something illegal
Go have a look at the google map you posted earlier. It has the word Parramatta River in blue all round Drummoyne Not Port Jackson or Sydney Habour
Have you ever skippered a boat on Port Jackson
RMS - Maritime have confirmed that there is a Regulation that specifically bans kiting on the Harbour east and west of the Bridge including the Parammatta River - common sense would tell most people kiting west of the Bridge is not a good idea anyway.
People who don't kite or with little experience know f all about it though, especially the dangers
Hi 4byran4
As long as the rope and the red safety line running through the bar is in good condition and there is not to much wear. Also check the lines are in good condition and that the red release mechenism above the loop functions under load and there is no corrosion in the system.
The bar is just old there were no know issues with that bar
Robbo2099
You guys did a great job and I really appreciate it
You are though confusing your east and west
East of the Habour bridge is Sydney Habour and there was people kiting in that area and they are still I think.
West of the Habour Bridge is the the Parramatta River and the Lane Cove River.
All the literature clearly states Sydney Habour and even though you may consider all the waterways west of Sydney heads to be Sydney Habour I'm sure that the Roads and Maritime Services don't.
Again kiting anywhere on Port Jackson is a really bad idea
IanR.
>>You are though confusing your east and west>>
My bad -- apologies. Since moving to the west coast, I'm easily confused about directions. Yes, should have said:
All areas WEST of the Sydney Harbour Bridge and all waterways WEST of the Pacific Highway in the Hawkesbury River are also off-limits to kiting, as well as the areas already designated on the KA maps. We never imagined anyone would consider kiting in those areas so didn't bother to mark them on the maps. As I have said previously on the forum, I have recommended to KBNSW and its President that they mark these areas on the maps to ensure there is no future confusion, but for whatever reason, they've chosen not to do it thus far.
YES: Again kiting anywhere on Port Jackson is a really bad idea