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Macroscien need your brain !!

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Created by eppo 1 month ago, 15 Feb 2020
eppo
WA, 7502 posts
23 Feb 2020 7:24AM
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Great ideas fellas Thankyou so much!!

and Ewan, antman loved riding and watching you at the pond. Passing in the middle of the bar ... that's gold and something he is already practising (even on dry land this was not happening very well) on the setup we just put together with some springs, bungies and rubber bands. Limits him to as far as say to a blind judge, 313 so I reckon a tramp is on the cards soon. We used to have one and the little prick was doing double backs and fronts on it at the age of eight. Oh to be young again!!

Well done at KOTA bro!! You didn't get much notice and yet you went damn hard, we watched all your heats live and were cheering you on!!

eppo
WA, 7502 posts
23 Feb 2020 10:26AM
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weebitbreezy said..
This video shows how wakeboarders set up for training with a trampoline. If you skip ahead you can see that they talk about using a bungie/elastic section in the rope to simulate tension being added back into the lines after you slack the lines out.



Might be a few ideas here that might work for you?


Perfect vid man cheers

MrFreeze
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23 Feb 2020 3:38PM
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eppo said..
Great ideas fellas Thankyou so much!!

and Ewan, antman loved riding and watching you at the pond. Passing in the middle of the bar ... that's gold and something he is already practising (even on dry land this was not happening very well) on the setup we just put together with some springs, bungies and rubber bands. Limits him to as far as say to a blind judge, 313 so I reckon a tramp is on the cards soon. We used to have one and the little prick was doing double backs and fronts on it at the age of eight. Oh to be young again!!

Well done at KOTA bro!! You didn't get much notice and yet you went damn hard, we watched all your heats live and were cheering you on!!


Hmmmmm, Come on Capt, I spend a considerable part of my day constructing a post that contained stern advice whilst being empathetic at the same time. Don't see a scrap of gratitude for poor old Freeze. I'll take that omission as a oversight on your part.

How about throwing some of the back slapping my way!

Plummet
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25 Feb 2020 12:47AM
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Side note.

Asking yourself how far should you let your child push themselves in sports is an interesting question. To reach world class level and potentially be a pro later in life the child may need to take risks and undertake training that are dangerous or detrimental to their health later in life.

What do you do? let your child fly or constrain them to your limitations? Let them fly too much they may end up dead or in a wheel chair, Constrain them too much and they wont reach their potential.


towradgi
NSW, 289 posts
25 Feb 2020 9:33AM
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Plummet said..
Side note.

Asking yourself how far should you let your child push themselves in sports is an interesting question. To reach world class level and potentially be a pro later in life the child may need to take risks and undertake training that are dangerous or detrimental to their health later in life.

What do you do? let your child fly or constrain them to your limitations? Let them fly too much they may end up dead or in a wheel chair, Constrain them too much and they wont reach their potential.





Everyday day recreational athletes take risks and bust bones not just future pro s....These include skateboards, pushbikes of all types, rugby ,netball knees ,little athletic shin splints , flip out trampolining for example . It's just a part of growing and living .

eppo
WA, 7502 posts
25 Feb 2020 8:31AM
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Plummet said..
Side note.

Asking yourself how far should you let your child push themselves in sports is an interesting question. To reach world class level and potentially be a pro later in life the child may need to take risks and undertake training that are dangerous or detrimental to their health later in life.

What do you do? let your child fly or constrain them to your limitations? Let them fly too much they may end up dead or in a wheel chair, Constrain them too much and they wont reach their potential.





Yeh plum interesting cost benefit question indeed and one I'm sure all parents ask. You don't want to impose your own developed and increasing aversion to risk (ie ya getting old!!) and yet try to impart some measure of wisdom to reduce the affects of inevitable injury.


Which ultimately was the driving force behind my engineering question. The more time spent perfecting technique and developing spatial awareness on land in a controlled setup, the less real crashes are needs to develop a trick. This came after watching him smash himself for 4 hours.



I figured I can't stop him doing - he's intrinsically motivated to learn, that but what can be done to improve his success rate on the water.

that being said last night I convinced him to take out the strapless surfboard and work on these tricks, give his body a rest. The day before we went kite foiling, then prone surfing.


so yeh... better to bust than rust, life's short, but mitigate risk as much as possible without stopping progression.

weebitbreezy
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19 Mar 2020 7:21PM
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eppo said..

I built a board off sim years ago and it accelerated my learning and reduced the pain, so surely this could help.



I don't suppose you might share the details of your board off simulator? Looking at a lot of the world wide kite spots and they seem to be being closed one by one so I'd like to have a project to keep me busy until the beaches are opened again.

eppo
WA, 7502 posts
20 Mar 2020 10:19AM
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Oh it was nothing flash. Installed a roof beam support in the shed, hung a bar of it at a height whereby when in chicken loop you almost lift yourself into it with feet just on ground when in the foot straps. Had outside lines running through a pulley each from the roof beam with adjustable knots to tighten or slack these.
start with board a little back, simulate a jump (head to my left) then you have until you swing back to get board off then back on. Quickly teaches you body position to get the board back on (which is the point most people fail). Add in your tic tacs, flips etc. even rotations. That muscle memory doing it hundreds of times comes handy when you are 20-30 feet up.


but word of caution, nearly gave myself a hernia. So be careful on stomach muscle fatigue !! Also use a **** board and make sure nothing is valuable in your shed when practising kick flips etc!! Anyhow all to no avail now don't really do that stuff anymore. Foils came along and with it big kites were sold.


On the lad ...

eventually went a round 12 foot trampoline (50 bucks yeeha) then tied the bar to a rope with a length of rubber and slackened line all as per the wakestyle training vid someone posted here. Also added in a bigger spring to make sure the bar really pulled away from him during the pass.

he spent a week training on it (no wind) and then two days later made his first three 313 air passes... all in a row.


Love it when a plan comes together.



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