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Ozone C4 V6.... peoples experiences

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Created by Chris_M A week ago, 11 Sep 2019
Chris_M
1812 posts
11 Sep 2019 5:04AM
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So I bought a 12m Ozone C4 V6 2019.

My question: I'm finding that this thing really lacks power. Have had it out for a few sessions and while it goes well when theres really strong wind, I'm finding that the bottom end power is piss poor.

From my POV it looks like the kite is choked out when bar is set to full power (this was in about 18 knots, which should be enough for it to get going). Tried trimming it a bit with the depower cleat and didn't do much to improve performance. Flying it off a Switch bar.

Has the C4 lost quite a bit of low-end power, or are my expectations too high after riding the Switch Nitros for the last 5 years (grunty low end)?

CJ2478
NSW, 350 posts
11 Sep 2019 8:02AM
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Chris_M said..
So I bought a 12m Ozone C4 V6 2019.

My question: I'm finding that this thing really lacks power. Have had it out for a few sessions and while it goes well when theres really strong wind, I'm finding that the bottom end power is piss poor.

From my POV it looks like the kite is choked out when bar is set to full power (this was in about 18 knots, which should be enough for it to get going). Tried trimming it a bit with the depower cleat and didn't do much to improve performance. Flying it off a Switch bar.

Has the C4 lost quite a bit of low-end power, or are my expectations too high after riding the Switch Nitros for the last 5 years (grunty low end)?


Your expectations are too high

eppo
WA, 7259 posts
11 Sep 2019 7:32AM
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Totally different kites the nitro and the C4. Nitro is a higher aspect design which generates its own static grunt as she hunts the edge of the window.hence it serves as a jumping free ride type kite.

The C4 is a pure C kite. You have to actively fly the kite to generate power such that when you unhook you can then quickly dump the power and generate slack lines to pass the bar.

Simple as that. Different kites for very different purpose hence very different flying characteristics.

Chris_M
1812 posts
11 Sep 2019 7:53AM
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Yeah I used to love the 2010 C4, but the newer model seems different. Like really different.

I know the marketing blurb says "completely redesigned" etc etc but just wondering if people are finding the same as me.

11 Sep 2019 10:05AM
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Something doesn't sound right. Maybe the switch bar?

Also you running in 5-line or 4-line? Maybe Rowdy can chime in, has been riding them almost exclusively for a very long time.

Chris_M
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11 Sep 2019 8:16AM
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Kitepower Australia said..
Something doesn't sound right. Maybe the switch bar?

Also you running in 5-line or 4-line? Maybe Rowdy can chime in, has been riding them almost exclusively for a very long time.

Thats my gut feeling. Its set up 4 line.

Seems like even with the bar just pulled in even a small amount seems to be choking it? Unless this thing really needs to be fully lit before it behaves nicely.

I have also owned and loved (aside from older C4's) the vegas (loved) torch (loved) fuel (was too much of a newb in 2006 to really love it, but it was ok).

I might have to find a local with an ozone bar and see if I can borrow...

11 Sep 2019 10:52AM
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Yeah but make sure it is a C4 bar, they have an even shorter throw (approx 30cm, just measured one) they pretty much only use these bars when designing/flying the prototypes before production.

Chris_M
1812 posts
11 Sep 2019 9:44AM
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Ok thanks will do

eppo
WA, 7259 posts
11 Sep 2019 9:49AM
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2010 C4 was really a free ride type C kite...almost a predecessor to the Hybrid C kites of today... well ahead of its time and yeh it was awesome.

The C4 is a full blood no compromise C kite now...and dude you gotta fly a proper C kite like that with a fifth line I reckon and definitely with the same throw with which it was designed around.

Try the AMP maybe, that's an unreal kite in 5 line setup for wakestyle stuff. Little less intense than the C4 to and in 4 line turns into a C hybrid style feel...sits between the 5 line AMP and the Enduro. Great kite the Amp.

Chris_M
1812 posts
11 Sep 2019 10:24AM
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eppo said..
2010 C4 was really a free ride type C kite...almost a predecessor to the Hybrid C kites of today... well ahead of its time and yeh it was awesome.

The C4 is a full blood no compromise C kite now...and dude you gotta fly a proper C kite like that with a fifth line I reckon and definitely with the same throw with which it was designed around.

Try the AMP maybe, that's an unreal kite in 5 line setup for wakestyle stuff. Little less intense than the C4 to and in 4 line turns into a C hybrid style feel...sits between the 5 line AMP and the Enduro. Great kite the Amp.


Yeah it was jellyfishing around a bit so a 5th line would probably help prevent that. Was a shyte gusty wind though, however.....

Have got my feelers out there for a couple of bar options should me next session be equally as unsatisfying.

One positive about the kite was that I threw a couple of really nice kiteloops on it and it went great on those, which is the main thing I like doing right now. For a 12 it turned pretty fast!

sir ROWDY
WA, 5325 posts
11 Sep 2019 11:12PM
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I certainly recommend trying it with a well tuned 5th line, kites always fly better with 5th line vs Bridals IMO.

cauncy
WA, 7493 posts
Thursday , 12 Sep 2019 8:58PM
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Got an 11, to me it hangs off it's power lines, with an open face a fair bit, certainly doesn't feel that great in lesser winds, but a sweet Kite when within its range, especially if you like to actively fly your kite you'll get rewards , certainly a different Kite in all ways to a nitro

Chris_M
1812 posts
Sunday , 15 Sep 2019 2:26PM
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Problem fixed! Turns out there was a knot removed from one side of the bridle lines (where you are supposed to be able to change between freeride to freestyle setting).

So put a knot back in and now its flying properly - it was looking quite distorted along the leading edge prior to my fixit.

Had a great session on it, and no longer have buyers regret :)

Thanks for everybodys input , much appreciated!

Ozone Kites Aus
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Wednesday , 18 Sep 2019 4:20PM
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Chris_M said..
Problem fixed! Turns out there was a knot removed from one side of the bridle lines (where you are supposed to be able to change between freeride to freestyle setting).

So put a knot back in and now its flying properly - it was looking quite distorted along the leading edge prior to my fixit.

Had a great session on it, and no longer have buyers regret :)

Thanks for everybodys input , much appreciated!


When you get an Ozone bar chuck a 5th line on it, you will be pleased you did.

Chris_M
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Wednesday , 18 Sep 2019 5:57PM
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Ozone Kites Aus said..

Chris_M said..
Problem fixed! Turns out there was a knot removed from one side of the bridle lines (where you are supposed to be able to change between freeride to freestyle setting).

So put a knot back in and now its flying properly - it was looking quite distorted along the leading edge prior to my fixit.

Had a great session on it, and no longer have buyers regret :)

Thanks for everybodys input , much appreciated!



When you get an Ozone bar chuck a 5th line on it, you will be pleased you did.


K mean I will do that as soon as I see a good 2nd hand bargain and have spare money managed to not spend on beer by mistake...



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