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Replacement Bladder

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Created by Grodad 3 months ago, 22 Jul 2018
Grodad
QLD, 17 posts
22 Jul 2018 3:26PM
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Does anybody know a supplier of replacement kite bladders? I would prefer ready made rather than the stick on diy type. Every time I do a new valve repair another valve goes.
Seems to be a few options in US and Europe but cannot find any in Oz under $265!! It's for a liquid force envy 2014.

Rails
QLD, 1120 posts
22 Jul 2018 5:17PM
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Seem to recall Moti Levy on the GC doing up a bladder for me once

Adam'KiteRepair
NSW, 311 posts
22 Jul 2018 5:34PM
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A full bladder repair would cost less then that through my shop mate and comes with free shipping. Feel free to give me a call if you like.

EastCC
QLD, 250 posts
22 Jul 2018 6:57PM
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Adam'KiteRepair said..
A full bladder repair would cost less then that through my shop mate and comes with free shipping. Feel free to give me a call if you like.


Adams the man for bladder repairs, can fix anything

Fly on da wall
VIC, 623 posts
22 Jul 2018 7:11PM
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Grodad said..
Does anybody know a supplier of replacement kite bladders? I would prefer ready made rather than the stick on diy type. Every time I do a new valve repair another valve goes.
Seems to be a few options in US and Europe but cannot find any in Oz under $265!! It's for a liquid force envy 2014.


Generally when 1 valve delaminates it's a sign that you need to strip all valves and glue them back on. Just takes time and then you'll be back on the water with confidence. That's what I do!
Cost is around 25 bucks for a tube of stormsure...

cbulota
WA, 1160 posts
23 Jul 2018 6:44AM
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Grodad said..
Does anybody know a supplier of replacement kite bladders? I would prefer ready made rather than the stick on diy type. Every time I do a new valve repair another valve goes.
Seems to be a few options in US and Europe but cannot find any in Oz under $265!! It's for a liquid force envy 2014.



Have you tried this website ? : www.wanikou.com ( I have no affiliation with these guys)

They can deliver a complete LE bladder with all the valves on it, it'll cost you under $200 AUD delivered which is cheap.

Say you would be able to find a LE bladder from Liquid Force themselves they would charge you more than this.

Otherwise you'll have to replace all the valves which is expensive. Gluing them can work and is the cheapest way but should be a last resort as it may fail. Remember that you may have to change the strut valves as well at some point...

In any extensive repair scenario on a kite that's more than a few years old it's always worth asking yourself: is it actually worth it ?

Christian

Fly on da wall
VIC, 623 posts
23 Jul 2018 8:02PM
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Grodad said..
Does anybody know a supplier of replacement kite bladders? I would prefer ready made rather than the stick on diy type. Every time I do a new valve repair another valve goes.
Seems to be a few options in US and Europe but cannot find any in Oz under $265!! It's for a liquid force envy 2014.







Have you tried this website ? : www.wanikou.com ( I have no affiliation with these guys)

They can deliver a complete LE bladder with all the valves on it, it'll cost you under $200 AUD delivered which is cheap.

Say you would be able to find a LE bladder from Liquid Force themselves they would charge you more than this.

Otherwise you'll have to replace all the valves which is expensive. Gluing them can work and is the cheapest way but should be a last resort as it may fail. Remember that you may have to change the strut valves as well at some point...

In any extensive repair scenario on a kite that's more than a few years old it's always worth asking yourself: is it actually worth it ?

Christian





Just unsure as to how glueing them like most "kite repair guy's do" will fail? That's a negative... Copy that!
Valves don't need to be replaced, just stripped and cleaned then left to dry and glueded as people have been doing for donkeys year's... And actually charging lazy kiters for the privilege hundreds of dollars..
We just need a tutorial Christian to show people how to with a hot chick in the clip.. Can you possibly do 1 of them too Christian?? Come on bud, lift!!! And you know how much we like your clips..

bjw
NSW, 2593 posts
24 Jul 2018 1:05PM
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I've replaced enough values over the years. It's a pain in the ahss!!

+1 Adams Kite Repair

kemp90
QLD, 1616 posts
24 Jul 2018 3:28PM
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Adam is the man. He has helped me out a lot over the past years!!!!!!
highly recommended

ActionSportsWA
WA, 580 posts
24 Jul 2018 4:12PM
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We do loads of bladder repairs in store from revolving, repairing major bursts and also manufacturing new bladders.

We often get customers bring in valves valves they have "glued" on themselves come in and ask us to fix the failed repair attempt. It is such a massive job removing all the old glue (if you even can), that we don't recommend using glue. If you get it right first time, sweet as a nut, if you fail, it will be an expensive repair.

we charge $50 to remove, replace valve and re-insert struts into their casing and leak test. To do a leading edge is $100 to remove and re-install, plus whatever valves need replacement. It's time consuming when done properly but can be expensive. Often better to buy an OEM bladder. It's cheaper and quicker.

DM

Fly on da wall
VIC, 623 posts
24 Jul 2018 7:40PM
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ActionSportsWA said..
We do loads of bladder repairs in store from revolving, repairing major bursts and also manufacturing new bladders.

We often get customers bring in valves valves they have "glued" on themselves come in and ask us to fix the failed repair attempt. It is such a massive job removing all the old glue (if you even can), that we don't recommend using glue. If you get it right first time, sweet as a nut, if you fail, it will be an expensive repair.

we charge $50 to remove, replace valve and re-insert struts into their casing and leak test. To do a leading edge is $100 to remove and re-install, plus whatever valves need replacement. It's time consuming when done properly but can be expensive. Often better to buy an OEM bladder. It's cheaper and quicker.

DM



Yeah exactly. At 3-4 hunsky to fix it's cheaper to buy a new bladder or learn how to do it yourself..
Especially when the kites not even worth that cause of it's age which is why the valves delaminate. But can also be from being left in a hot car or environment to cause the double sided tape that they're attached with to give up on ya..
Sometimes it's cheaper to get a new bladder but they'll do the same in time. That's where glueing is better..
Oh.. And I have no affiliation or income from fixing my kites, just passion for enjoying a beer...And helping kiters to enjoy the stoke, or just be bamboozled and put your hand in ya Wallet! Believe you need a new kite and you'll be a better man... And kiter you might think...But with no real cred..
This thread does the rounds so much most car salesman would call it "another lost leader"...


........ Lift lift sb

Fly on da wall
VIC, 623 posts
24 Jul 2018 8:36PM
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And just a quick note. You can't remove old glue, you just put a stick on valve on over a failed glue repair.
Can you guy's over there please explain how to remove glue as you say? Faaaark me. This ****e is just getting really real..
Faaaarkn site sponsor baloney.
But then again, this is the internet...hmmm.
Keep it real. Even if there's no wind it's still blowing up somewhere..Lol

Grodad
QLD, 17 posts
5 Aug 2018 11:37AM
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cbulota said..

Grodad said..
Does anybody know a supplier of replacement kite bladders? I would prefer ready made rather than the stick on diy type. Every time I do a new valve repair another valve goes.
Seems to be a few options in US and Europe but cannot find any in Oz under $265!! It's for a liquid force envy 2014.




Have you tried this website ? : www.wanikou.com ( I have no affiliation with these guys)

They can deliver a complete LE bladder with all the valves on it, it'll cost you under $200 AUD delivered which is cheap.

Say you would be able to find a LE bladder from Liquid Force themselves they would charge you more than this.

Otherwise you'll have to replace all the valves which is expensive. Gluing them can work and is the cheapest way but should be a last resort as it may fail. Remember that you may have to change the strut valves as well at some point...

In any extensive repair scenario on a kite that's more than a few years old it's always worth asking yourself: is it actually worth it ?

Christian


Thanks for your responses folks, I've decided to order a new leading edge replacement bladder from these guys. The bladder has a couple of big tears in it. I have replaced two valves already, another leaks and I reckon more will be on the way out. Not worth keeping on patching an old tired bit of kit. By the time you add up money spent on tear aid, glue and stick on valves, or pay money for a repair, I might as well order new.
Cheers.



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