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Edge V8 V9 vs Flysurfer boost 2

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Created by dkeating > 9 months ago, 2 Apr 2018
dkeating
VIC, 253 posts
2 Apr 2018 10:05PM
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Hi Guys im looking to up grade my 2014 11m Ozone edge, for something similar but better. looking at Edge V8 or 9 or flysurfer boost 2
Any experiences which is better.
There seems to be a few good buys around at the moment on both these kites.
So any experiences, feed back would be helpful.
I generally would use this kite in flat water but occasionally use it in small waves, and generally don't try too many tricks in the surf so would be rare to drop it in the drink.
Thanks in advance.

Gazuki
WA, 1363 posts
3 Apr 2018 5:50AM
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Core XR5

JoeMc
WA, 97 posts
3 Apr 2018 7:25AM
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I have the V9 edge and love it. I rode the boost 2 and it's also a great kite but prefer the edge.

BrisKites
QLD, 1286 posts
3 Apr 2018 12:14PM
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I have flown both.
The Edge is a little higher aspect and I find jumps higher. The Boost is a lit faster turning.

SaveTheWhales
WA, 1869 posts
4 Apr 2018 11:55AM
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Gazuki said..
Core XR5


Gazuki - Thats a shameless pimp, but Id go the Xr5 too lol, faster turning means higher for me - and the bloke with the jump record thingy

ste
WA, 499 posts
4 Apr 2018 8:21PM
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I'm on the v8 and v9 edges, but would love to demo rebel, xr5, boost also! The v9 edge is awesome booster for sure.

SavIb
NSW, 102 posts
5 Apr 2018 7:22AM
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Sort of depends on how you ride and what conditions.

Boost has larger Sweet spot for kiteloop, bar movements that would kill you on other kites you can get away with on the boost. Boost is better/more fun on the lower end with that funky back bridle, rigged for max lift..... feels very foil kiteish with the float. Boost better in waves for aggressive riding (looping down the line or top to bottom turn).

Edge better high end booster and is better for parked carving down the line, stuff you don't need to move the Kite much for. You can still loop it fine the the loop isn't as clean as the boost.

Boost back bridle sucks if your not using it (snag wise) and also increases instability. Hopefully Boosts inflate valve will be better in version 3.0.

Edge durability? Only time will tell, anyone else notice V9 colour fade? Same as v8 as in it fades fast but if your buying and edge it's not for colour fastness.......

Hope that helps, both great kites just a little different. However they are much closer to each other than they are to siblings from respective manufacturer.

Ozone Kites Aus
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5 Apr 2018 10:18AM
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SavIb said..
Sort of depends on how you ride and what conditions.

Boost has larger Sweet spot for kiteloop, bar movements that would kill you on other kites you can get away with on the boost. Boost is better/more fun on the lower end with that funky back bridle, rigged for max lift..... feels very foil kiteish with the float. Boost better in waves for aggressive riding (looping down the line or top to bottom turn).

Edge better high end booster and is better for parked carving down the line, stuff you don't need to move the Kite much for. You can still loop it fine the the loop isn't as clean as the boost.

Boost back bridle sucks if your not using it (snag wise) and also increases instability. Hopefully Boosts inflate valve will be better in version 3.0.

Edge durability? Only time will tell, anyone else notice V9 colour fade? Same as v8 as in it fades fast but if your buying and edge it's not for colour fastness.......

Hope that helps, both great kites just a little different. However they are much closer to each other than they are to siblings from respective manufacturer.


Great you have been able to ride and compare both kites. I'm not seeing the colour fading you refer too though unless you are referring to the orange that Ozone has used in the Edge V9 and some other models. The Blue and Green hardly fade at all, I cannot notice any fading on my personal kites and they see a lot of sunlight compared to average kiters, kites. (150+hrs personal in the last 5 months, spread mainly over 4 Reos, but also some extra hours Edge/Enduro/Zephyr demo time as well).
The only kite I can see any fading on is a 20 month old 10m Reo sold to a local mate last year who only has one kite. In saying that though this orange and the fact that its Teijin D2, make it the slowest fading orange I've ever seen. Orange used to be the worst colour for fading in any brand of cloth, but this Teijin D2 stuff is different (same as the north tri fibre stuff).
The fibres are coloured first, then coated with resin then woven into cloth, then coated in resin a second time, so its double sealed against ingress of air and dirt/light.

SavIb
NSW, 102 posts
5 Apr 2018 11:11PM
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ste said..
I'm on the v8 and v9 edges, but would love to demo rebel, xr5, boost also! The v9 edge is awesome booster for sure.


Yeah edge,rebel,xr,boost,nitro......Back to Back for 2 or 3 Days would be sick. Imagine something like Kitesurfari doing demo weeks with a setup like the above. I'd book a week every replacement cycle to travel and test the kites like this. Pretty sure a business opportunity exists here somewhere ;) But why stop with the boosting kites? ;)

SavIb
NSW, 102 posts
5 Apr 2018 11:22PM
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SavIb said..
Sort of depends on how you ride and what conditions.

Boost has larger Sweet spot for kiteloop, bar movements that would kill you on other kites you can get away with on the boost. Boost is better/more fun on the lower end with that funky back bridle, rigged for max lift..... feels very foil kiteish with the float. Boost better in waves for aggressive riding (looping down the line or top to bottom turn).

Edge better high end booster and is better for parked carving down the line, stuff you don't need to move the Kite much for. You can still loop it fine the the loop isn't as clean as the boost.

Boost back bridle sucks if your not using it (snag wise) and also increases instability. Hopefully Boosts inflate valve will be better in version 3.0.

Edge durability? Only time will tell, anyone else notice V9 colour fade? Same as v8 as in it fades fast but if your buying and edge it's not for colour fastness.......

Hope that helps, both great kites just a little different. However they are much closer to each other than they are to siblings from respective manufacturer.



Great you have been able to ride and compare both kites. I'm not seeing the colour fading you refer too though unless you are referring to the orange that Ozone has used in the Edge V9 and some other models. The Blue and Green hardly fade at all, I cannot notice any fading on my personal kites and they see a lot of sunlight compared to average kiters, kites. (150+hrs personal in the last 5 months, spread mainly over 4 Reos, but also some extra hours Edge/Enduro/Zephyr demo time as well).
The only kite I can see any fading on is a 20 month old 10m Reo sold to a local mate last year who only has one kite. In saying that though this orange and the fact that its Teijin D2, make it the slowest fading orange I've ever seen. Orange used to be the worst colour for fading in any brand of cloth, but this Teijin D2 stuff is different (same as the north tri fibre stuff).
The fibres are coloured first, then coated with resin then woven into cloth, then coated in resin a second time, so its double sealed against ingress of air and dirt/light.


Yeah red V8's and Orange V9's worst on colour fastness, disagree on all kite brands having the same problem though. However if they did use the same material and don't do any UV Voodo differently, they would fade the same.

Spartan
VIC, 42 posts
6 Apr 2018 7:45PM
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I have flown many other brands over my years of kiting and I have never experienced anything like the Boost2 , This kite is a true all-rounder.
I have had the 11 meter boost2 out from 8knts to 40knts while most of the guys had their 7s 8s and 9s out there.
Here I was looping the kite out of every turn doing down loops on the way down from massive floaty jumps.
This thing is amazing and the kite loops are tight.
the upwind ability is unbeatable.
It's a shame not to many people a aware of this kite and its performance.

SavIb
NSW, 102 posts
6 Apr 2018 9:38PM
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Spartan said..
I have flown many other brands over my years of kiting and I have never experienced anything like the Boost2 , This kite is a true all-rounder.
I have had the 11 meter boost2 out from 8knts to 40knts while most of the guys had their 7s 8s and 9s out there.
Here I was looping the kite out of every turn doing down loops on the way down from massive floaty jumps.
This thing is amazing and the kite loops are tight.
the upwind ability is unbeatable.
It's a shame not to many people a aware of this kite and its performance.


Hey Spartan,

Did you ever ride edge v boost back to back? If so how much do you weigh and how much PSI into the boost? I always felt the edge was going to give a slight advantage in speed and upwind angle.......Big, Big fan of intuitive loopability of the boost.

castill0jf
VIC, 563 posts
7 Apr 2018 5:14AM
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I kite with spartan many time. HE is a very good kiter . He can use any kite and make it look easy. Also, I seen people flying Edge. The Edge kite is impressive. The Edge is is on my wish list. The Boots has to many briddle. You will have to demo both kites. You will not make a bad choice on any of these two kites.
The boost have many bridles and the edge is simple bridle setup
cheers

Spartan
VIC, 42 posts
7 Apr 2018 7:56AM
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Spartan said..
I have flown many other brands over my years of kiting and I have never experienced anything like the Boost2 , This kite is a true all-rounder.
I have had the 11 meter boost2 out from 8knts to 40knts while most of the guys had their 7s 8s and 9s out there.
Here I was looping the kite out of every turn doing down loops on the way down from massive floaty jumps.
This thing is amazing and the kite loops are tight.
the upwind ability is unbeatable.
It's a shame not to many people a aware of this kite and its performance.








Hey Spartan,

Did you ever ride edge v boost back to back? If so how much do you weigh and how much PSI into the boost? I always felt the edge was going to give a slight advantage in speed and upwind angle.......Big, Big fan of intuitive loopability of the boost.







Hi Savlb,
Yes I have flown the Edge, the problem with that kite is that it has no low end grunt, which means you have to work the kite to get going, the Boost2 is similar in flight once Both kites are already moving and the generation of apparent wind, the only BETTER difference is that the Boost2 HAS got the low end grunt, which means in light wind all you do is pull the Bar and off you go, no need to work the kite to get going, which in my opinion is Most important.

PS everyone keeps mentioning about the extra bridals, that is NOT true with the 13 meter the 11 meter the 9 meter the 7meter and the 5 meter. The only two kites with the extra bridals are the 15 meter and the 18 meter kites and the extra bridals are there to re-launch in light winds when your kite has ended up in the water, no other kite on the market reverse launches Better in light wind than the 15 and the 18 meter boost2 and that's because of the trailing edge bridals.
NOW I am repeating myself, Don't get confused by what others are saying there are NO extra bridals on the 13 meter 11 meter 7meter and the 5meter.
Go fly one you'll love it
Cheers

jamesperth
WA, 610 posts
10 Apr 2018 6:19PM
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Spartan said..
I have flown many other brands over my years of kiting and I have never experienced anything like the Boost2 , This kite is a true all-rounder.
I have had the 11 meter boost2 out from 8knts to 40knts while most of the guys had their 7s 8s and 9s out there.
Here I was looping the kite out of every turn doing down loops on the way down from massive floaty jumps.
This thing is amazing and the kite loops are tight.
the upwind ability is unbeatable.
It's a shame not to many people a aware of this kite and its performance.





Spot on spartan - the Boost 2 is a great allrounder for freestyle riding - big air, hooked In tricks, Dark slides etc. I have a quiver consisting of 5-9-11 and that covered me from 10 to 40 knots. It loops nice and tight, upwind is excellent and they made great kites for hydrofoiling. I'm not very good at boosting - for me it was just send it and sheet in and up you'd go, others who were waaay better than me said it was a very easy kite to jump with.

The trailing edge bridle is an optional addition and can be removed. It's purpose is to aid relaunch in light wind.

give em a go - they are well priced too.

s_h_a_n_o
WA, 88 posts
10 Apr 2018 8:52PM
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If I experience everything I've read, that 11 may not be yours for too much longer James

Will post a review up once I've had a chance to give it a fly.

SavIb
NSW, 102 posts
11 Apr 2018 8:57AM
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Yeah the funky bridle is only on some kites and optional for others, hopefully if your interested you would have gone to the website.

Its not only about light wind relaunch! You can definitely feel the adjustment settings on the back bridle..... If you have it set on max lift, in the low end wind range. It will Significantly increase your fun factor.

The lift to drag ratio changes and it starts to feel more like a foil Kite. IMO it's the difference between mowing the lawn and having a little fun. You need to try it for yourself, change the settings in the same conditions.

That being said, with the added fun comes consequences. The Kite is a little less forgiving. For me that meant more stalling during kiteloop surface tricks. It's no dealbreaker but it's there, I'd still pick boost over edge because of this feature. (If I could only have one Kite.)

I hope flysurfer continue to develop the idea. It's different, it works I just wish it was a little easier to whip on and off the Kite.

Added the blurb from the boost website on the bridle below....


Adaptive Airfoil Bridle Kit
Profile adjustment - like sailing or on airplane wings - this is the idea behind the Adaptive Airfoil System. A minimalistic trailing edge bridle makes it possible to adjust the profile of the kite during flight. Especially noticeable on the excellent low end or when relaunching. The Adaptive Airfoil Bridle is integrated in the sizes 15.0LW and 18.0LW and is optionally available for sizes 11.0 & 13.0m, making them ideal for hydrofoiling.

Gilly3
QLD, 794 posts
11 Apr 2018 9:29AM
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U guy's that are making these big claims of 8 and 10 knts on an 11m LEI are failing to tell us what boards you were on and what you weigh??

The comment about the edge having no bottom end grunt is just absurd....

It's a proven race kite....

Ozone Kites Aus
NSW, 884 posts
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11 Apr 2018 10:38AM
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Gilly3 said..
U guy's that are making these big claims of 8 and 10 knts on an 11m LEI are failing to tell us what boards you were on and what you weigh??

The comment about the edge having no bottom end grunt is just absurd....

It's a proven race kite....


Good Points Gilly3, to claim 10 knots on an 11M Edge, (or Boost2), the water has to be flat, and the board has to be BIG. I reckon the bottom end for me on the Edge 11M is about 10-12 knots in smooth flat water but the board I use is 1.48 x 47 and is very flat. There is no boosting at these wind speeds, it just mowing, which is fine if thats what you want. (fine by me any kite time is good time)
The claim of Ozone cloth fading fast (red and orange) is an example of the anonymous underhanded style of some seabreezers, trying to cast doubt in the mind anyone that could be interested in purchasing an Ozone.
The Ozone Edge V9 still has that race kite DNA, but it has been given some freeride tweaking so now it turns much tighter, ie easier to relaunch, and has lost no bottom end.

These are pics an 18mth old Ozone Reo 10M V4 Orange, originally used by me and demo'ed for a full season and now owned by a local who kites more than me. This kite has seen at least 150-200hrs of use, does it look very faded?
If you don't know the original colour you'd probably say no, and the truth is that it has faded maybe 10-15% max but the strength of the kite is fine it regularly gets a rinse as my friend also goes hard in the waves as you can see.








SavIb
NSW, 102 posts
11 Apr 2018 12:02PM
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Ozone Kites Aus said..

Gilly3 said..
U guy's that are making these big claims of 8 and 10 knts on an 11m LEI are failing to tell us what boards you were on and what you weigh??

The comment about the edge having no bottom end grunt is just absurd....

It's a proven race kite....



Good Points Gilly3, to claim 10 knots on an 11M Edge, (or Boost2), the water has to be flat, and the board has to be BIG. I reckon the bottom end for me on the Edge 11M is about 10-12 knots in smooth flat water but the board I use is 1.48 x 47 and is very flat. There is no boosting at these wind speeds, it just mowing, which is fine if thats what you want. (fine by me any kite time is good time)
The claim of Ozone cloth fading fast (red and orange) is an example of the anonymous underhanded style of some seabreezers, trying to cast doubt in the mind anyone that could be interested in purchasing an Ozone.
The Ozone Edge V9 still has that race kite DNA, but it has been given some freeride tweaking so now it turns much tighter, ie easier to relaunch, and has lost no bottom end.

These are pics an 18mth old Ozone Reo 10M V4 Orange, originally used by me and demo'ed for a full season and now owned by a local who kites more than me. This kite has seen at least 150-200hrs of use, does it look very faded?
If you don't know the original colour you'd probably say no, and the truth is that it has faded maybe 10-15% max but the strength of the kite is fine it regularly gets a rinse as my friend also goes hard in the waves as you can see.









All I get from your post is that you have not ridden a boost2 back to back with a v8 or v9 edge. We are just trying to answer and help another fellow Kiter out. I guess this is turning into yet another thread that requires close scrutiny of each posters motives.

Maybe the kites I've seen fade are anomalies, maybe some of them like to keep paint thiners in the car or near their Kite storage. I don't know? I'm just saying that I've noticed some v9 and v8 edges fade. It's been a bit of a talking point at my local.......Just like poor Kite company R&D on control bars.

Adam'KiteRepair
NSW, 331 posts
11 Apr 2018 2:12PM
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SavIb said..

Ozone Kites Aus said..


Gilly3 said..
U guy's that are making these big claims of 8 and 10 knts on an 11m LEI are failing to tell us what boards you were on and what you weigh??

The comment about the edge having no bottom end grunt is just absurd....

It's a proven race kite....




Good Points Gilly3, to claim 10 knots on an 11M Edge, (or Boost2), the water has to be flat, and the board has to be BIG. I reckon the bottom end for me on the Edge 11M is about 10-12 knots in smooth flat water but the board I use is 1.48 x 47 and is very flat. There is no boosting at these wind speeds, it just mowing, which is fine if thats what you want. (fine by me any kite time is good time)
The claim of Ozone cloth fading fast (red and orange) is an example of the anonymous underhanded style of some seabreezers, trying to cast doubt in the mind anyone that could be interested in purchasing an Ozone.
The Ozone Edge V9 still has that race kite DNA, but it has been given some freeride tweaking so now it turns much tighter, ie easier to relaunch, and has lost no bottom end.

These are pics an 18mth old Ozone Reo 10M V4 Orange, originally used by me and demo'ed for a full season and now owned by a local who kites more than me. This kite has seen at least 150-200hrs of use, does it look very faded?
If you don't know the original colour you'd probably say no, and the truth is that it has faded maybe 10-15% max but the strength of the kite is fine it regularly gets a rinse as my friend also goes hard in the waves as you can see.









All I get from your post is that you have not ridden a boost2 back to back with a v8 or v9 edge. We are just trying to answer and help another fellow Kiter out. I guess this is turning into yet another thread that requires close scrutiny of each posters motives.

Maybe the kites I've seen fade are anomalies, maybe some of them like to keep paint thiners in the car or near their Kite storage. I don't know? I'm just saying that I've noticed some v9 and v8 edges fade. It's been a bit of a talking point at my local.......Just like poor Kite company R&D on control bars.



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SavIb said..

Ozone Kites Aus said..


Gilly3 said..
U guy's that are making these big claims of 8 and 10 knts on an 11m LEI are failing to tell us what boards you were on and what you weigh??

The comment about the edge having no bottom end grunt is just absurd....

It's a proven race kite....




Good Points Gilly3, to claim 10 knots on an 11M Edge, (or Boost2), the water has to be flat, and the board has to be BIG. I reckon the bottom end for me on the Edge 11M is about 10-12 knots in smooth flat water but the board I use is 1.48 x 47 and is very flat. There is no boosting at these wind speeds, it just mowing, which is fine if thats what you want. (fine by me any kite time is good time)
The claim of Ozone cloth fading fast (red and orange) is an example of the anonymous underhanded style of some seabreezers, trying to cast doubt in the mind anyone that could be interested in purchasing an Ozone.
The Ozone Edge V9 still has that race kite DNA, but it has been given some freeride tweaking so now it turns much tighter, ie easier to relaunch, and has lost no bottom end.

These are pics an 18mth old Ozone Reo 10M V4 Orange, originally used by me and demo'ed for a full season and now owned by a local who kites more than me. This kite has seen at least 150-200hrs of use, does it look very faded?
If you don't know the original colour you'd probably say no, and the truth is that it has faded maybe 10-15% max but the strength of the kite is fine it regularly gets a rinse as my friend also goes hard in the waves as you can see.









All I get from your post is that you have not ridden a boost2 back to back with a v8 or v9 edge. We are just trying to answer and help another fellow Kiter out. I guess this is turning into yet another thread that requires close scrutiny of each posters motives.

Maybe the kites I've seen fade are anomalies, maybe some of them like to keep paint thiners in the car or near their Kite storage. I don't know? I'm just saying that I've noticed some v9 and v8 edges fade. It's been a bit of a talking point at my local.......Just like poor Kite company R&D on control bars.




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SavIb said..

Ozone Kites Aus said..


Gilly3 said..
U guy's that are making these big claims of 8 and 10 knts on an 11m LEI are failing to tell us what boards you were on and what you weigh??

The comment about the edge having no bottom end grunt is just absurd....

It's a proven race kite....




Good Points Gilly3, to claim 10 knots on an 11M Edge, (or Boost2), the water has to be flat, and the board has to be BIG. I reckon the bottom end for me on the Edge 11M is about 10-12 knots in smooth flat water but the board I use is 1.48 x 47 and is very flat. There is no boosting at these wind speeds, it just mowing, which is fine if thats what you want. (fine by me any kite time is good time)
The claim of Ozone cloth fading fast (red and orange) is an example of the anonymous underhanded style of some seabreezers, trying to cast doubt in the mind anyone that could be interested in purchasing an Ozone.
The Ozone Edge V9 still has that race kite DNA, but it has been given some freeride tweaking so now it turns much tighter, ie easier to relaunch, and has lost no bottom end.

These are pics an 18mth old Ozone Reo 10M V4 Orange, originally used by me and demo'ed for a full season and now owned by a local who kites more than me. This kite has seen at least 150-200hrs of use, does it look very faded?
If you don't know the original colour you'd probably say no, and the truth is that it has faded maybe 10-15% max but the strength of the kite is fine it regularly gets a rinse as my friend also goes hard in the waves as you can see.









All I get from your post is that you have not ridden a boost2 back to back with a v8 or v9 edge. We are just trying to answer and help another fellow Kiter out. I guess this is turning into yet another thread that requires close scrutiny of each posters motives.

Maybe the kites I've seen fade are anomalies, maybe some of them like to keep paint thiners in the car or near their Kite storage. I don't know? I'm just saying that I've noticed some v9 and v8 edges fade. It's been a bit of a talking point at my local.......Just like poor Kite company R&D on control bars.


Could it be that you have observed Screenprinted material vs die impregnated material? Screen print inks are pretty insane these days and dont really fade much. Impregnated yes, but seeing as most brands are on the same exact material, it's hard to imagine that one fades more then the other. For reference though, which brands do you think fade less quick?
Sorry for taking this more off topic. I dont have alot to offer for the original comparison but I am intrigued by the colour fading conversation.

SavIb
NSW, 102 posts
11 Apr 2018 6:14PM
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Nah no screen print, the entire Kite panelling fading on v9 edge. That photo ozone kites has posted is an order of magnitude darker.

cauncy
WA, 8407 posts
11 Apr 2018 8:24PM
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SavIb said..

Ozone Kites Aus said..


Gilly3 said..
U guy's that are making these big claims of 8 and 10 knts on an 11m LEI are failing to tell us what boards you were on and what you weigh??

The comment about the edge having no bottom end grunt is just absurd....

It's a proven race kite....




Good Points Gilly3, to claim 10 knots on an 11M Edge, (or Boost2), the water has to be flat, and the board has to be BIG. I reckon the bottom end for me on the Edge 11M is about 10-12 knots in smooth flat water but the board I use is 1.48 x 47 and is very flat. There is no boosting at these wind speeds, it just mowing, which is fine if thats what you want. (fine by me any kite time is good time)
The claim of Ozone cloth fading fast (red and orange) is an example of the anonymous underhanded style of some seabreezers, trying to cast doubt in the mind anyone that could be interested in purchasing an Ozone.
The Ozone Edge V9 still has that race kite DNA, but it has been given some freeride tweaking so now it turns much tighter, ie easier to relaunch, and has lost no bottom end.

These are pics an 18mth old Ozone Reo 10M V4 Orange, originally used by me and demo'ed for a full season and now owned by a local who kites more than me. This kite has seen at least 150-200hrs of use, does it look very faded?
If you don't know the original colour you'd probably say no, and the truth is that it has faded maybe 10-15% max but the strength of the kite is fine it regularly gets a rinse as my friend also goes hard in the waves as you can see.









All I get from your post is that you have not ridden a boost2 back to back with a v8 or v9 edge. We are just trying to answer and help another fellow Kiter out. I guess this is turning into yet another thread that requires close scrutiny of each posters motives.

Maybe the kites I've seen fade are anomalies, maybe some of them like to keep paint thiners in the car or near their Kite storage. I don't know? I'm just saying that I've noticed some v9 and v8 edges fade. It's been a bit of a talking point at my local.......Just like poor Kite company R&D on control bars.

Don't fly edges, but here's something to talk shidt about,
how have edges dominated the race scene for a decade, and now their foils, why haven't flysurfer boosts, they do however have some very competitive foils, edges are dominating the YOG class, flysurfer make a good product
but they've a fair way to go on the race scene to match the edges history, it's pretty simple for a manufacturer to look into another manufacturers design, old best or eleveight designers are known to keep an eye on
ozones equipment, not that they do but then claim our equipment is better bla bla f.....g bla, take Naish drafts, look at how they were marketed, unrivalled , class leading, the kite did f..k all on the race scene, that's ok if it isn't marketed as such, but it was, only kite close was the asv, which was a blatant rip off of the edge, I've rode that and imho was almost a carbon copy in the bigger sizes as the older edges, honestly most brands have tried to replicate the edges and rebels , take the mutiny f series imho that was also another brand copy of the north rebel, and on and on

Kamikuza
QLD, 6493 posts
11 Apr 2018 11:01PM
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SavIb said..
Nah no screen print, the entire Kite panelling fading on v9 edge. That photo ozone kites has posted is an order of magnitude darker.


If you correct the White Balance in Photoshop, it looks a lot less rich in color and the sand looks more sand colored, but that's no proof of anything IMO without side-by-side color comparison under the same lighting conditions and the HDR turned off.

KPSS Used
NSW, 372 posts
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12 Apr 2018 12:07PM
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SavIb said..
Nah no screen print, the entire Kite panelling fading on v9 edge. That photo ozone kites has posted is an order of magnitude darker.



That would be the material manufacturers fault, not Ozones. Stop with the smear campaign.

School Catalyst V1 used for 2 school seasons, thrashed in all weather conditions, camouflaged on top is a brand new Edge V9 11m...



Massive fading hey?

And for savlb this is what "order of magnitude means", which would mean the kites you have down there would be pretty close to faded white. We all know they are not.





SavIb
NSW, 102 posts
12 Apr 2018 3:27PM
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Some pics from the archive now 2 months old.

This is what I based my opinion on. And the fact I was at the unboxing on a new vs old orange V9 edge. Wish I had photos that day as it was clearly a different shade.

Sorry dkeating for the hijack.

SavIb
NSW, 102 posts
12 Apr 2018 3:47PM
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SavIb said..
Nah no screen print, the entire Kite panelling fading on v9 edge. That photo ozone kites has posted is an order of magnitude darker.




That would be the material manufacturers fault, not Ozones. Stop with the smear campaign.

School Catalyst V1 used for 2 school seasons, thrashed in all weather conditions, camouflaged on top is a brand new Edge V9 11m...



Massive fading hey?

And for savlb this is what "order of magnitude means", which would mean the kites you have down there would be pretty close to faded white. We all know they are not.






Just saying, and we all exaggerate to clarify occasionally (Some to the pathological level).

In my opinion what you posted as the colour, is not what I've seen.

KPSS Used
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12 Apr 2018 4:23PM
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KPSS Used said..


SavIb said..
Nah no screen print, the entire Kite panelling fading on v9 edge. That photo ozone kites has posted is an order of magnitude darker.





That would be the material manufacturers fault, not Ozones. Stop with the smear campaign.

School Catalyst V1 used for 2 school seasons, thrashed in all weather conditions, camouflaged on top is a brand new Edge V9 11m..

Just saying, and we all exaggerate to clarify occasionally (Some to the pathological level).

In my opinion what you posted as the colour, is not what I've seen.


Not sure what those pictures are meant to prove...

This is the last I will add to this currently derailed thread. If that is, in fact, the case then it is still a problem with the material manufacturer (who dozens of other brands use) not Ozone. This is fact, not "shop guy" bias. We haven't seen any accelerated fading you claim to see.

SavIb
NSW, 102 posts
12 Apr 2018 5:40PM
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SavIb said..




KPSS Used said..





SavIb said..
Nah no screen print, the entire Kite panelling fading on v9 edge. That photo ozone kites has posted is an order of magnitude darker.








That would be the material manufacturers fault, not Ozones. Stop with the smear campaign.

School Catalyst V1 used for 2 school seasons, thrashed in all weather conditions, camouflaged on top is a brand new Edge V9 11m..




Just saying, and we all exaggerate to clarify occasionally (Some to the pathological level).

In my opinion what you posted as the colour, is not what I've seen.





Not sure what those pictures are meant to prove...

This is the last I will add to this currently derailed thread. If that is, in fact, the case then it is still a problem with the material manufacturer (who dozens of other brands use) not Ozone. This is fact, not "shop guy" bias. We haven't seen any accelerated fading you claim to see.




It proves that what you say is just your opinion. You have provided evidence and so have I. I'll let the community decide which opinion to put more faith in.

Adam'KiteRepair
NSW, 331 posts
13 Apr 2018 7:40AM
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SavIb said..





KPSS Used said..






SavIb said..
Nah no screen print, the entire Kite panelling fading on v9 edge. That photo ozone kites has posted is an order of magnitude darker.









That would be the material manufacturers fault, not Ozones. Stop with the smear campaign.

School Catalyst V1 used for 2 school seasons, thrashed in all weather conditions, camouflaged on top is a brand new Edge V9 11m..





Just saying, and we all exaggerate to clarify occasionally (Some to the pathological level).

In my opinion what you posted as the colour, is not what I've seen.






Not sure what those pictures are meant to prove...

This is the last I will add to this currently derailed thread. If that is, in fact, the case then it is still a problem with the material manufacturer (who dozens of other brands use) not Ozone. This is fact, not "shop guy" bias. We haven't seen any accelerated fading you claim to see.





It proves that what you say is just your opinion. You have provided evidence and so have I. I'll let the community decide which opinion to put more faith in.


All that aside mate, Im still curious as to which brands you think fade less? You seemed at the start to insinuate that other brands were better. Im genuinely curious as to which?
My 2 cents in, I havnt seen alot of fading issues with any kite brand since the introduction of tighter weave fabrics. Though Iv seen canopies that flap themselves to death. Also canopies that are designed to look old and weathered strait out of the package. I also see alot of stained kites that come from dirty water areas. The Canopy useally cleans up well but the Leading edge can be a different story.

tard
WA, 22 posts
13 Apr 2018 10:27AM
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