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Created by Rusty01 > 9 months ago, 5 Jun 2021
Rusty01
23 posts
5 Jun 2021 5:26PM
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Seabreeze couldn't get a forecast right in SE Qld if they tried. Absolutely hopeless and by far the least reliable.

kitenow
NSW, 34 posts
8 Jun 2021 9:48AM
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Just out of interest when and where did they get it wrong?

airsail
QLD, 1240 posts
8 Jun 2021 2:25PM
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It's only a feed from BOM, if BOM is wrong, so is Seabreeze. It's the doldrums, happens May, June and July every year. Then we get the good westerlies, and seabreeze Northerlies start September.

gabew
QLD, 9 posts
3 Dec 2021 5:24PM
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Live feeds are the best to go off. Forecasts are never accurate

AquaPlow
QLD, 1051 posts
4 Dec 2021 8:13AM
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The SB app differs to web now.. More localised to phone on app. The European modelling apps are ok.. (PredictWind).
Have added range of weather station s (that I know of) to the SE Qld locations guide.. Might help..
Cheers
AP

503010
QLD, 6 posts
15 Dec 2021 2:05PM
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Been exact the last 5 days on the Goldie, a forecast is only an estimate

NorthernKitesAUS
QLD, 1061 posts
17 Dec 2021 9:44AM
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Rusty01 said..
Seabreeze couldn't get a forecast right in SE Qld if they tried. Absolutely hopeless and by far the least reliable.


bring back the red thumbs please

davinchi
WA, 31 posts
22 Dec 2021 10:15AM
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airsail said..
It's only a feed from BOM, if BOM is wrong, so is Seabreeze. It's the doldrums, happens May, June and July every year. Then we get the good westerlies, and seabreeze Northerlies start September.


Pretty sure you will find the wind forecast in "Seabreeze" is not from BoM but from the freely available GFS American model (22km resolution). In general though If you want a more accurate spot forecast use "Windy", by default it uses the ECMWF model which is higher resolution and more accurate in Australia than GFS (Also available in Windy). BoM also have their high resolution Access model which performs well but the interface from their website is not as user friendly as it should be.

laurie
WA, 3848 posts
24 Dec 2021 10:17AM
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Seabreeze uses a combination of models, including BoM and GFS.

Forecasts are now accurate to 1.5km, but as with any system, garbage in, garbage out. Weather is complex and forecasts are computed based on very spatial and varied inputs.

Forecasting has improved so much and continues to get better.

Wasn't so long ago that clouds, winds and temperature were the only indicators of approaching weather...

Sorrento1254
QLD, 61 posts
24 Dec 2021 1:08PM
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airsail said..
It's only a feed from BOM, if BOM is wrong, so is Seabreeze. It's the doldrums, happens May, June and July every year. Then we get the good westerlies, and seabreeze Northerlies start September.


Not this year, it's been the worst I have ever seen, still waiting on a decent Seabreeze in the afternoons.

airsail
QLD, 1240 posts
24 Dec 2021 10:25PM
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Sorrento1254 said..

airsail said..
It's only a feed from BOM, if BOM is wrong, so is Seabreeze. It's the doldrums, happens May, June and July every year. Then we get the good westerlies, and seabreeze Northerlies start September.



Not this year, it's been the worst I have ever seen, still waiting on a decent Seabreeze in the afternoons.


I log my sessions on Strava, 170 sessions this year. That's kiting or winging almost every second day, you just need gear suitable for our conditions.

NorthernKitesAUS
QLD, 1061 posts
4 Jan 2022 2:45PM
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airsail said..

Sorrento1254 said..


airsail said..
It's only a feed from BOM, if BOM is wrong, so is Seabreeze. It's the doldrums, happens May, June and July every year. Then we get the good westerlies, and seabreeze Northerlies start September.




Not this year, it's been the worst I have ever seen, still waiting on a decent Seabreeze in the afternoons.



I log my sessions on Strava, 170 sessions this year. That's kiting or winging almost every second day, you just need gear suitable for our conditions.


Whining about the weather is like pissing into the wind (sorry pun intended).

Log your rides/sessions and you'll be surprised how often you go out there. I kite almost once a week if not twice when I can get away from the missus. Just last Sunday, winds predicted to be around 10knots, turned out to be close to 16knots and had the entire Pallarenda Bay to myself. Had a 19m kite of course, so yeah the right equipment for the day is all you need. A quiver is essential.



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