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Phantasm has landed in the U.S.

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Created by CoreAS 1 month ago, 2 Sep 2021
sunsetsailboards
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23 Sep 2021 12:59AM
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bigdaz said..


CoreAS said..



dejavu said..
Here's what all the foils look like. That 125 cm. mast is huge! The HA PTM 1001 wing looks like a great windsurf and wing foil.






Basically every mast, fuse and wing combo you could possibly imagine

Its awesome that you can mix and match HG and Phantasm however us foilers are so consumed with front wing shape etc. we are forgetting the mast as its not so "glamorous" and so having a phantasm front wing, fuse and rear wing on a aluminum HG mast I think will be an instant regret, that's like having a Ferrari with a diesel engine.

The phantasm 92 mast I have been testing for wind and winging is so good that I cannot praise it enough, its phenomenal...and that's not even the stiffest mast




I don't know if it's possible or even how beneficial it would be, but if you have the Hover Glide Fwind V3, could you update just the mast to the Phantasm mast? Surely it would have to increase performance and have greater strength.

I think at some point I would like to get into jumping and have seen some posts about bent masts from this, would this be a good option? How does the i76 wing go for jumping??? What are some other things to think about with mixing and matching the two lines???



the phantasm aluminum masts are basically the same as the HG masts, and the standard phantasm fuselage adaptor bolts on w/ two bolts in a butt-type connection (flat surface to flat surface). the phantasm aluminum wide masts have a different fuselage adaptor that looks more like and Axis doodad that has a tongue that insert inside the mast for stiffness.

the main reason people go w/ carbon is for lightness... carbon masts are often less stiff than aluminum (not in all cases) for general riding, but jumping they can be bent if not strong enough. Also, for jumping, I would want lightness of the total foil (and especially glider) and robustness of the mast to fuselage connection. Of course, one's budget is also a consideration.

Light gliders on the end of a 90cm + mast are a nice thing. Combo of light fuselage and light foils. I have not weighed the Phantasm fuselages or wings... perhaps CoreAS can provide us w/ the info on this.

The connections on the Phantasm carbon and aluminum wide systems look very robust. Aluminum standard mast looks OK as long as the bolts are in tension.

ZeroVix
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23 Sep 2021 2:17AM
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Slingshot claims that the new aluminum wide mast are 15% lighter and 12% stronger than the HG mast. The connection to the fuse looks much better too.

CoreAS
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25 Sep 2021 10:33AM
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The mast is very important, not all carbon masts are the same, some brands aluminum masts are stiffer than their carbon version.

However once you try the 12k carbon mast, mixing and matching the phantasm wing and fuse with the HG mast would not be advisable.
Get the phantasm carbon masts!

pic from last night with the PFI 730 wing/400 rear, long fuse and 92 mast






thedoor
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6 Oct 2021 2:45PM
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WsurfAustin
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6 Oct 2021 8:50PM
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thedoor said..


Nice !!. Would love to hear some impressions of I76 vs the 730.

CoreAS
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6 Oct 2021 9:25PM
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WsurfAustin said..

thedoor said..



Nice !!. Would love to hear some impressions of I76 vs the 730.


I have only foiled the 730 one time as we are very much stuck in lighter winds right now. I always like to test gear in a variety of conditions before posting comments...however from my very first impressions!

Both wings generate a lot of lift but I feel the 730 is more balanced at speed.
In the right conditions I feel the 730 can be pushed faster (but I need a decent wind to prove that theory).
730 responds quicker to foot pressure in transitions but that's just as much due to the mast performance.

The 926 has been my go to wing for 8-15 mph winds on flat water, I really want to test the 730 in 15-20 mph in swell.

thedoor
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7 Oct 2021 12:30AM
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WsurfAustin said..

thedoor said..



Nice !!. Would love to hear some impressions of I76 vs the 730.


This is more from a surf rider but he compares the 730 and i76 around 3.45




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