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WSA - Boggy Lake Slalom?

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Created by Dr Duck > 9 months ago, 20 Jan 2021
Dr Duck
SA, 450 posts
20 Jan 2021 9:48AM
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Hi guys. The Windsurfing SA Calendar has a slalom event at Boggy lake listed for February. I was involved in running these a few years ago, where we set up a couple of buoys and the challenge was to do as many laps as possible in an hour. It's was good fun and we all got to practice gybing around a buoy which turns out to quite different to gybing at a time and place of your own choosing

So any takers for an slalom event at Boggy this February? Or has Slalom racing dropped off everyone's radar with Windsurfer LT racing/foiling/wind-dinging taking off?

Cheers, Richard

jn1
2454 posts
20 Jan 2021 6:08PM
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Hey D. Yes, I would be interested in another slalom race for sure, but I remember the events Garath organised at Boggy in summer 2012/13 were extremely difficult due to Boggy's unpredictable wind strengths and directions. Could I suggest Goolwa Channel ? (where the demo day was organised last Sunday). Being coastal, the wind is better behaved. Goolwa channel would allow everybody to compete IMO.

Chinny Oz
SA, 114 posts
20 Jan 2021 9:57PM
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The Boggy events were great if you were prepared to run on a forecast - much like the Cannonball Run. The biggest drawback was that Gareth was trying to cater for the Boggy Lake sailors but none of them participated. They just went off and did their own thing with their GPS.
It was a few metro beach sailors who made the effort and had a blast. For me personally I enjoyed it as its where I was introduced to some recently arrived fellow poms trying to integrate into the SA sailing scene (Juan and Rob).
This will be similar to the grief WSA got for trying to host an event at Lake George in October (The organisers are coastal sailors who are doing their bit to spread the love and cater for flat water sailors who are unappreciative to the point of criticizing decisions - let's be honest the LG event was an afterthought anyway in case of **** waves and wind direction)
When was the last time a flat water sailor put on a wave sailing event? plus if 50 speedsailors turn up to LG each season and don't hold an event what hope is there?
Enough has been said about the snipers from the shadows......www.seabreeze.com.au/forums/Windsurfing/South-Australia/WindsurfingSA-Events-Calendar-20-21
The wavesailing crew can continue to fly the flag for this wonderful sport.
I say put the event on and bollocks to the nay sayers. Let the committed few enjoy it. We have over 60 registered on WhatsApp in metro Adelaide so hopefully we can get some weekend warriors up there for some fun.

asdmuzak
SA, 278 posts
20 Jan 2021 10:35PM
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Yeah
Let's takeover boggy lake!!

asdmuzak
SA, 278 posts
20 Jan 2021 10:35PM
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Yeah
Let's takeover boggy lake!!

Dr Duck
SA, 450 posts
21 Jan 2021 2:00PM
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Hi Guys, Thanks for the comments. Yep let's do it. First windy Sunday in February. I will keep everyone posted.
Cheers, Richard

Jacko51
SA, 217 posts
21 Jan 2021 2:13PM
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jn1 : "extremely difficult due to Boggy's unpredictable wind strengths and directions." Jay this statement is incorrect. In summer the forecast's wind strength and direction are very reliable. In fact it can be 5 - 10 knots stronger than Goolwa (GPS Team Challenge - Bogan Speed Team (SA, Australia) - 17th Jan 2021 )due to the temperature difference between Victor Harbor and Murray Bridge creating the afternoon seabreeze. ( You need to go down more often in summer )

asdmuzak : Based on your comments here " Is Boggy ok for Learners | Windsurfing Forums, page 1 (seabreeze.com.au) " why would you want to " take over Boggy Lake "

Chinny, Does WSA stand for Wavesailing SA or Windsurfing SA.

If the Association wants to run a competition at Boggy Lake for its members, or elsewhere for that matter, no one is stopping them. Just don't throw negative comments at those who may sail at a particular spot or those who are not interested in sailing in competitions.

Chinny Oz
SA, 114 posts
22 Jan 2021 11:52AM
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Jacko51,
Become a member and I am sure you will find out. Help support the windsurfing community, cheap insurance, host events etc

If you are a member, not sure my post warrants a sarcastic comment. Reality is the coastal sailors are the ones trying to run the organisation ATM.

asdmuzak
SA, 278 posts
22 Jan 2021 11:04PM
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Haha
The boggy crew are so precious
I'll sail wherever i want it's sad so many of u are scared of the ocean.
I stand by my comments.
Boggy is a dump, if we want to have an event we will, we are the ones promoting windsurfing in south oz and if u want to race against your gps all the power to you.
Forgive us for trying to make windsurfing in south oz all inclusive for everyone and trying to include others to maybe do something different.
I don't see u guys at the lessons teaching beginners, and that's ok.
I've got my lifejacket check.
I've got my gloves check
I've got my full length wettie check
I've got my booties check
I've got my helmet check
I've even got my gps check.
Time to hit boggy.

Chinny Oz
SA, 114 posts
23 Jan 2021 4:33AM
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Yes Ian, but to avoid this................
you might need this
Oh, and maybe get one of these while you are at it. 2010 model I think


jn1
2454 posts
23 Jan 2021 12:55PM
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WSA Inc: "Haha The boggy crew are so precious". Is this official communication Mr President ?

Jacko: Despite what you think, I love sailing Boggy (no more said). For GPS sailing (for sailors that can), sailors tack to the pocket where the water is flatter and sail there. So to ask you a question about slalom, If an event was the same format as Garth's, then could you sail the race non-stop for an hour ?. Can you do this in 18 knots ?. What about in 25 knots ?. How many crew can sail Boggy in 25kts across the channel without falling off or resting ?. The WSA members posting here are the top athletes in our hobby, and I think would have no problem completing the race in any changing conditions Boggy throws at them. However, I think we both would struggle to finish the race if the 2012/13 conditions were repeated. Goolwa channel is an easier spot for slalom IMO, and would allow below average sailors to complete the race, and that makes an event fun and rather than frustrating.

FishMints
SA, 146 posts
25 Jan 2021 4:47PM
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Most laps you can do in an hour sounds good, I'll take part where ever you have it ...I've scored some good prizes coming last!

WindyChris
SA, 11 posts
26 Jan 2021 6:39PM
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Hi Richard

I'm in for a slalom race/attempt at racing. I'm a coastal sailer by habit but keen to check out new spots and sail with a crew, which is part of what makes windsurfing fun I reckon. Sailed for the first time in the Goolwa channel this weekend (from near the barrage) and never sailed a boggy so keen to give it a shot!

cheers,
chris

Dr Duck
SA, 450 posts
28 Jan 2021 10:59AM
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On ya WindyChris and thanks everyone for your comments and feedback. Jason, I think we will go with Boggy rather than Goolwa just on account of the boats and crowds at Goolwa which are more difficult to avoid in a race setting.

Yep, I' very happy to run the event and if people meet a new windsurfing buddy or learn or teach a new technique, or see what gear works where then that is win for me.

Having fun is half the fun :-)

See you on the day. Cheers, Richard

jn1
2454 posts
28 Jan 2021 4:49PM
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No worries D. Good point.

Aus06
SA, 235 posts
20 Feb 2021 10:06PM
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This is such ridiculous conversation.
The wave sailors sail in the ocean where there are waves. They have wave sails and wave boards. This makes sense. They want swell, jumps and wave riding. Awesome, and good on them.The flat water sailors sail on flat water with race sails and slalom boards and some use gps units. They want flat water for faster speeds than they can achieve in open ocean. This also makes sense. Awesome, and good on them.

The flat water sailors do their thing. The wave sailors do their thing. It's a great system.
But then the wave sailors feel the need to bag the flat water sailors. Why? We don't bag you.
Does the ocean make you better? Is that what it is?

I was on WSA years ago and organised races and events for years. It was fun, and there was good participation.
It sounds like some of the wave guys are disappointed that the flat water guys didn't participate in their Boggy lake race.
I'm a WSA member. I pay my dues, contribute financially but don't expect anything in return. That's ok too isn't it?
There is no right or wrong here. There are just different people enjoying different windsurfing, on different equipment, in different locations, wearing different wetsuits and buoyancy aids. The world is a diverse place, and that's what makes it interesting.
We are all enjoying windsurfing the way we like to do it.
The 'flat water haters' are drawing unnecessary and embarrassing attention to themselves. It's not necessary, and actually makes you look pretty silly.


Good winds everyone..!

Chinny Oz
SA, 114 posts
21 Feb 2021 8:09PM
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Not sure there are any Flat Water Haters here. The only people who have commented all participated. Yes it was flat and fast and they all had fun.

The problem is AUS06 you are doing what I am complaining about - segregating sailors:
"The wave sailors sail in the ocean where there are waves". "
"The flat water sailors do their thing"

There is another category of sailors - those who like all aspects of the sport and want to experience many disciplines. Why can't we just be Windsurfers?

I sail mainly on the coast. I love sailing in waves, but if it is windy I will sail anywhere. Love my 8m and iSonic also. What we seem to be getting is an Us and Them mentality. Why? I would enjoy the GPS guys taking us under their wing and sharing some of their craft with us.

Growth of the windsurfing community is important for many reasons. I often see nostalgic posts about how many people sailed in events back in the 80s. Well, no point in being nostalgic about numbers if no one will attend events. I say events cos it seems people read that as competition. It doesn't have to be a competition, just a community gathering of fellow sailors.

WSA keep putting on events please. I enjoy getting together and sharing the stoke. All I am saying is that it is a shame others do not want to join in.



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